tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-135355690938071630.post256052714637489855..comments2022-11-03T08:45:47.328+01:00Comments on Second Stindberg: Your world, your imagination: the transgender debatePeter Stindberghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05187648076397777162noreply@blogger.comBlogger25125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-135355690938071630.post-81701716454709542252009-12-23T12:21:45.822+01:002009-12-23T12:21:45.822+01:00I feel great to find a space where different peopl...I feel great to find a space where different people speak somehow feel part of society even in a virtual context. Surely there will be people who continue to discriminate against these people but the truth is that they are people too, and also be respected by thinking differently. Ojala mature.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04517561752065575460noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-135355690938071630.post-82370919638915618762009-09-01T09:49:30.461+02:002009-09-01T09:49:30.461+02:00Hi Peter,
Thanks so much for pointing that out an...Hi Peter,<br /><br />Thanks so much for pointing that out and it is wonderful to see the lindens followed up on this error quickly.<br />Yoshi xxo<br /><br />p.s. don't forget that dance!yoshihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03657071183500047643noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-135355690938071630.post-28587808786141535102009-09-01T09:48:33.302+02:002009-09-01T09:48:33.302+02:00Hi Peter,
Thanks so much for pointing that out an...Hi Peter,<br /><br />Thanks so much for pointing that out and it is wonderful to see the lindens followed up on this error quickly.<br />Yoshi xxo<br /><br />p.s. don't forget that dance!yoshihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03657071183500047643noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-135355690938071630.post-28636535742802054862009-08-29T07:39:10.434+02:002009-08-29T07:39:10.434+02:00That's freaky, I never noticed that. Good job ...That's freaky, I never noticed that. Good job pointing it out.Kanomihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12045284288830567371noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-135355690938071630.post-90543364688930847102009-08-23T16:34:35.159+02:002009-08-23T16:34:35.159+02:00cool post,, I take all my frends as they are,, bu...cool post,, I take all my frends as they are,, but seeing linden do this creeps me out . SL is not RL . PS am not 18 ..but look it in SLHALEYhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01043625503359980176noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-135355690938071630.post-74262371924309362712009-08-22T22:50:47.296+02:002009-08-22T22:50:47.296+02:00Exuberance LaFleur said...
Wonderful post Peter! ...Exuberance LaFleur said...<br /><br />Wonderful post Peter! (((Hugs)))Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-135355690938071630.post-17284850817522831282009-08-22T22:43:13.082+02:002009-08-22T22:43:13.082+02:00One of your best posts, Peter!
I went to vote on ...One of your best posts, Peter!<br /><br />I went to vote on the Jira, but it had been resolved, yay!<br /><br />Most transgendered people have not transitioned gender roles. For them, Second Life provides safe space to experiment and learn, interacting with others as the gender to which they wish they had been born and gaining experience they will need if and when they transition.Cheyenne Palisadeshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17857731023321638792noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-135355690938071630.post-89006605189777261362009-08-21T11:51:25.167+02:002009-08-21T11:51:25.167+02:00/me thinks Ivanova is right, Peter is among the be.../me thinks Ivanova is right, Peter is among the best of the best.Nadine Nozakihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16279715798713388028noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-135355690938071630.post-70297778965483813032009-08-21T11:39:12.748+02:002009-08-21T11:39:12.748+02:00/me blushes
You are partial, Ivanova, but thank y.../me blushes<br /><br />You are partial, Ivanova, but thank you nevertheless for making my day.Peter Stindberghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05187648076397777162noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-135355690938071630.post-55704083336565872952009-08-21T11:35:27.782+02:002009-08-21T11:35:27.782+02:00An excellent post Peter. You really are one of the...An excellent post Peter. You really are one of the best residents in the metaverse.Ivanova Shostakovichhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11299988610933941950noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-135355690938071630.post-18214357948730863912009-08-20T21:49:54.344+02:002009-08-20T21:49:54.344+02:00I really think something should be done rather tha...I really think something should be done rather than deleting it and apologizing in the JIRA. What about all of those people who were offended but said nothing?<br /><br />But, of course, asking the person repsonsible to come forward, be accountable, and apologize - that's definitely more than anyone could hope for.<br /><br />Not unless the CEO of one of the corporations LL is courting right now is openly transgender.Angie McGregor-Pearsehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10923669482450361609noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-135355690938071630.post-2999476872467014512009-08-19T13:26:17.667+02:002009-08-19T13:26:17.667+02:00*hugs* I know Peter, just that in that line, tryin...*hugs* I know Peter, just that in that line, trying to count, was way to simple, and yes the admitting is a very great sign of trust. Something you time and time again you show you deserved. I got the same feeling when I got that long notecard form you. I was in tears reading it... and still can be just because you trust me.<br /><br />I never ask about RL, why because with out that you can see into the person, not mask or expectations to live up to....Nadine Nozakihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16279715798713388028noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-135355690938071630.post-82126707412773079432009-08-19T13:09:33.720+02:002009-08-19T13:09:33.720+02:00I noticed this as well, with no small amount of su...I noticed this as well, with no small amount of surprise and shock. I've meant to write about it as well. Thank you for doing so, and inspiring me (and others) to do so as well.Angie McGregor-Pearsehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10923669482450361609noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-135355690938071630.post-57808700327735800592009-08-19T12:50:44.492+02:002009-08-19T12:50:44.492+02:00The quoted number is the number of people who I co...The quoted number is the number of people who I count as friends and who actively (via their profile or via conversation with me) shared this fact about themselves. In fact I even forgot someone (sorry again, Sio) in that count. I would not be surprised at all if among my friends or aquaintances would be some more. <br /><br />The thing is - I do not really CARE. I would be very honored if someone else feels the level of trust to share this information with me, but it does not change a single thing for me. I do not NEED to know, because to me, they are who they are. Only as a token of friendship and trust it is significant, but not in the way how I act and feel about a person.<br /><br />As for the Blacklist in peculiar and SL in general: I take people at face avlue and take them as what they portrey. I treat everybody with respect until the prove unworthy with it, and I consider someone with a female avatar female, with a male avatar male, and with any other mix of gender, species or anything like that. If you are a guy or a girl in RL is not important to me. Admittedly I am socially more easy with female/mostly-female avatars, but again the RL gender does not matter in that equation. Which is what fascinates me at the Blacklist, that the general attitude is quite relaxed.Peter Stindberghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05187648076397777162noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-135355690938071630.post-57500362703396823392009-08-19T12:43:29.284+02:002009-08-19T12:43:29.284+02:00Thanks Peter, and YaY, for the fix. I think your n...Thanks Peter, and YaY, for the fix. I think your number 4 is to low. Your at BlackList after all.<br /><br />Maybe thats only a part of whan it Transgender is to include, exclude males in female looks, Shemales, Hermaphrodite, and all other names.<br /><br />And after all sex is just a checkbox on the body type. And we all rezz as females until the body is loaded. Given you turned the cloud off :DNadine Nozakihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16279715798713388028noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-135355690938071630.post-31415407077504721562009-08-19T01:37:40.416+02:002009-08-19T01:37:40.416+02:00It is fixed now (and even apologized for on the JI...It is fixed now (and even apologized for on the JIRA). Nice to see! Hope whoever did it in the first place has gotten some extra clue installed. :)Dale Innishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02771522211082181738noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-135355690938071630.post-20971498941130504472009-08-18T21:12:25.381+02:002009-08-18T21:12:25.381+02:00You are wonderful, Peter.You are wonderful, Peter.Nala Tenknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-135355690938071630.post-67274572325735236092009-08-18T20:54:37.450+02:002009-08-18T20:54:37.450+02:00It's interesting how the brain often "fil...It's interesting how the brain often "filters" these messages since they seldom offer any real meaning - we just press OK to get going. It's good someone's taking notice when they discover such glitches. <br /><br />Vote sent!Cristopher Lefavrehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07668868185639345724noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-135355690938071630.post-84194088439295131162009-08-18T20:35:02.604+02:002009-08-18T20:35:02.604+02:00I hope that more people blog about this and send a...I hope that more people blog about this and send a clear message to LL that this sort of discrimination will not be tolerated.<br /><br />We have an adult warning at our site slapt.me but it reads as follows:<br /><br />18+ Warning<br /><br />This web site contains mature content designed for and by adults. There are discussions and images which should not be viewed by those who are not considered adults in their particular geopolitical reality. If you are under the age of maturity, dislike or do not enjoy images, products or topics having to do with 18+ matters or are incapable of separating artistic fantasy from reality, Please leave this site.<br /><br />This is all LL needs do instead of singling out a section of the community that has to fight already tooth and nail for their rights and I will continue bring this to other peoples attention until LL fix it as their excuse of will give you a response in a couple of days is not acceptable at all in this instance.Lord Sullivanhttp://www.slapt.menoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-135355690938071630.post-631739607203693742009-08-18T20:07:55.867+02:002009-08-18T20:07:55.867+02:00As Eloise, I thin that it may be only a case of un...As Eloise, I thin that it may be only a case of unfortunate wording; they probably tried to "advice" users about the risk of falling for somebody and later discover their RL gender is different from their SL one. <br /><br />It is a stupid mistake, but it fits too well the ass-covering police of LL, and the huge news cover that this kind of things bring *shrugs*.<br /><br />LL bigotry or stupid mistake, the thing is you have written a nice and significative 200th post *smiles*.London Spenglerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18381079971368238015noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-135355690938071630.post-10765862647025479432009-08-18T19:37:35.986+02:002009-08-18T19:37:35.986+02:00/me votes for "crass and foolish" rather.../me votes for "crass and foolish" rather than intentional. LL is good, institutionally, at not thinking things through.Dale Innishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02771522211082181738noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-135355690938071630.post-72856612092975221232009-08-18T19:04:00.916+02:002009-08-18T19:04:00.916+02:00No idea if it was deliberate or a crass and foolis...No idea if it was deliberate or a crass and foolish choice words. However since it's a tiny bit of code and it's got an assignee already hopefully it will be fixed soon.<br /><br />And hopefully it will never happen again. Linden Lab ought to know by now they're home to a real hodge-podge of sexualities, personalities and that amongst others the TG community is well represented here. Checking their words to make sure they don't publish comments like this should be automatic.Eloisehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00645110245532917138noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-135355690938071630.post-10663197453010548152009-08-18T18:23:11.459+02:002009-08-18T18:23:11.459+02:00Not much to say, thank you for this post. I only s...Not much to say, thank you for this post. I only saw this thing this morning and was considering what to say myself. <br /><br />I think I'll link to you instead once I've eaten.<br /><br />Thank you.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-135355690938071630.post-24549437996590090742009-08-18T18:07:00.337+02:002009-08-18T18:07:00.337+02:00I don't understand why transgendered people ne...I don't understand why transgendered people need to be singled out in a disclaimer like that. It's simply not necessary. I agree it goes too far.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15047746043196987610noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-135355690938071630.post-74534764194573666442009-08-18T17:15:18.576+02:002009-08-18T17:15:18.576+02:00It seems quite obvious to me that a virtual enviro...It seems quite obvious to me that a virtual environment will appeal to many people in who live their ‘real’ existence in a discriminated society. People can find refuge in the safety of their computer screen. It’s also fairly commonly thought that many people in Second Life are in some way a little ‘broken’ by the real world as a whole.<br /><br />I am always therefore at a loss when someone, something in this digital world takes exception and attacks another. Surely we’re all brought together into this safe environment and surround by others who lead their lives with a bit more freedom in this digital environment.<br /><br />I agree with you, the statement on XStreet went a stage too far and included a section of society who are already battling misconceptions and certainly shouldn’t have been singled out again in a world that should grab them with open arms and offer a hug.Trinity Dechouhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06911940150885161727noreply@blogger.com